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Re: suggestions?
Sat, March 11, 2006 - 10:23 PMI have some Irish folk dances that I'm feeding through a simple system of maximal modal distortion under North Indian theory.
I'm using the tunes for string quartet themata, but I suppose I can either print them off for you or just explain how I've distorted them so you can try it yourself. -
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Re: suggestions?
Sat, March 11, 2006 - 11:20 PMIt's pretty simple, but it only works properly with very clean modal melodies.
Basically, if a scale degree is the higher version, you present the lower version and vice-versa. The fifth is the exception for reasons I will explain should it come to that.
2nd, 3rd, 6th,7th degrees: major and minor are reversed.
4th degree; perfect and augmented are reversed.
Phrygian and Lydian will invert to each other, which is not very interesting.
The interesting things happen with Dorian, Mixolydian, Aeolean and somewhat with Ionian/the major scale, but less so because such melodies tend to depend on shapes that lose a lot and don't gain much when distorted in the manner I have suggested.
Melodies strictly using the Harmonic Minor scale will also (somewhat counterintuitively) be rendered appreciably more 'exotic' when this device is applied to them. In fact, the result is a scale I had derived by entirely different means so as to produce a maximally irregular scale under quasi-Greco-Chinese-Nort- Indian theory (look at it a while as a series of fifhs branching out from 1 and 5 as a starting point).
When you get used to the scale substitutions a bit, you can usually sight-read clean modal melodies (assuming you can to begin with) in the new mode by imagining a mixed key signature of sharps and flats.
I'm using these for imitative counterpoint because the gross unevenness of scale intervals under step sequence allows me to do literal per-line-per-space transpositions to imitative figures without getting the same consonance/dissonance relationships from one point of imitation to the next; graphically literal canons come out sounding rather non-literal and the emergent harmonic progressions are more than merely a reiteration of the points of imitation.
I've also noted that with these kinds of 'false' modes, the best accidentals to add (if it comes to that) will be tones that don't cause the th pitch collection to approach the diatonic; if you have an augmented 2nd in the scale, don't use for an 'extra' pitch either of the ones in the gap. Look, instead, where the major 2nds are and use the tone wedged in there as your 'extra' pitch.
For example...
If you're abusing an Aeolean melody with a scale A-B-C-D-E-F-G-A by rendering it, instead, with A-Bb-C#-D#-E-F#-G#-A, the pitches D, F and G may remind you of the original scale, but if they're used only at special moments they won't have any such effect to the ear. The pitches B and C, though, blunt the basic shape of the new scale, and are probably better avoided.
Try it and get back to me, eh? -
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Re: suggestions?
Mon, March 13, 2006 - 2:26 PMdid I mention that I am somewhat musicallly retarded?
I would have to hear it to really grasp what you mean. -
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Re: suggestions?
Tue, March 14, 2006 - 5:37 PMOh.
Do you know scales or do you just play?
(being able to actually play is more important than knowing your scales, if you care) -
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Re: suggestions?
Tue, March 14, 2006 - 8:01 PMas I proclaim at www.1manbanjo.com I work the sloppy rag time rhythm. I practice scales every now & then just for the sake, but mostly just play a g petatonic , what I call a middle eastern scale & -1 note = japanese flute scale. I'm not too well versed on the various scales & when they should come into play. I care, belive me, but that don't change the fact that I got off on the foot of just doing it, rather than having the map of technicality to go by. I saw the toids the other night at cell space & was blown away by the virtuosity, practiced scales for many hours after, wishing I could be better. the thing is, I have an entertaining shtick which though it requires a fair amount of co-ordination, is pretty low brow. but, whatever, it works. my first album had a lot more scale work & note isolation, but my latest (post hobo gobbelins) phase is all about rhythm, it get's the people dancing. that's the magic. -
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(practicing scales will make everything you do tighter)
Thu, March 16, 2006 - 12:30 AMDo you two guys know each other? Fuckin'ey.
If so, dammit Ubaslatha, give Josh some kind of word-up hand-sign for me, please. I favor the tilt-head-with-handgun-pointing-left thing or Gojira-arms. -
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Re: (practicing scales will make everything you do tighter)
Thu, March 16, 2006 - 6:44 PMI sorta' know this guy from hangin' at the Odeon and from him playing some kind of 99-hour marathon as the opening act at one of the Spootnik Orchestra shows I did at the Stork Club.
Brougham is no slouch pho'shizzle.
(visualize: secret hand gesture of the Short Bus Posse) -
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Re: (practicing scales will make everything you do tighter)
Thu, March 16, 2006 - 11:18 PMFuggin figures you'd be a theory geek also.
I ask myself: why did I leave california? oh yeah - to hurry back to atlanta...
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Re: (practicing scales will make everything you do tighter)
Wed, March 22, 2006 - 6:59 PMmy brain hurts
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